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Summary 0044269: remove GUI rebuild+restart from MMC
Revision 2020-10-07 10:53 by alostale
Description Project page: http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Projects:MMC_Remove_Rebuild_and_Restart [^]

Context:
MMC windows contain two functionalities in practice
a.) Install, Update, Remove modules with logic inside butler to auto-calculate matching dependencies.
This algorithm to find a 'consistent set of modules' is not available anywhere else.

b.) Rebuild System + Restart tomcat
I put both together and they are just convenient. The same can be done on the command line by usual compilation commands (ant update.database compile.complete.deploy)

Idea:
- Keep a.) as no replacement for this functionality is available and probably requires some longer discussion with more people.
- Remove b.) as just convenience and not longer very useful (see below for reasons)
- If okay do so that will no longer be needed to be supported in upcoming appliance
  - Either by backporting / disabling removal to 20Q1 (which is hopefully good enough release for upcoming Appliance
  - Or by 'telling people is unsupported'


Reasons for removal:
- Not supported outside appliance / cloud
- Not supported with HA (as that simple system has no idea about multiple servers)
- Not supported in Wildfly (or even tried to support)
- Not useful as soon as you use hg/git repos or customized modules (as MMC just overwrites with 'common' published module)
- Complex, fragile on a technical level
  I.e. rebuild + restart the running system from inside itself
- Effort just to keep working in the platform team
For example 19Q1 project to upgrade logging framework itself was quite small but increased by +1 full week just because of problems to keep this b.) above working
- Hidden Complexity in appliance to support this
Appliance since moving to Ubuntu has 2-3 ugly hidden design choices, strange things which are ugly and nobody besides myself even knows/understands (could be fixed but better to remove)
- Ubuntu / Appliance 20.04 changes which will require extra effort for previous item just to keep it working


Reasons to maybe keep:
- Simple to use if you have no idea about command line
- Probably some users exists using it which would be unhappy with us removing the 'convenience 2 click rebuild'
- unknown number of partners / customers 'maybe'
Revision 2020-10-07 10:46 by alostale
Description Context:
MMC windows contain two functionalities in practice
a.) Install, Update, Remove modules with logic inside butler to auto-calculate matching dependencies.
This algorithm to find a 'consistent set of modules' is not available anywhere else.

b.) Rebuild System + Restart tomcat
I put both together and they are just convenient. The same can be done on the command line by usual compilation commands (ant update.database compile.complete.deploy)

Idea:
- Keep a.) as no replacement for this functionality is available and probably requires some longer discussion with more people.
- Remove b.) as just convenience and not longer very useful (see below for reasons)
- If okay do so that will no longer be needed to be supported in upcoming appliance
  - Either by backporting / disabling removal to 20Q1 (which is hopefully good enough release for upcoming Appliance
  - Or by 'telling people is unsupported'


Reasons for removal:
- Not supported outside appliance / cloud
- Not supported with HA (as that simple system has no idea about multiple servers)
- Not supported in Wildfly (or even tried to support)
- Not useful as soon as you use hg/git repos or customized modules (as MMC just overwrites with 'common' published module)
- Complex, fragile on a technical level
  I.e. rebuild + restart the running system from inside itself
- Effort just to keep working in the platform team
For example 19Q1 project to upgrade logging framework itself was quite small but increased by +1 full week just because of problems to keep this b.) above working
- Hidden Complexity in appliance to support this
Appliance since moving to Ubuntu has 2-3 ugly hidden design choices, strange things which are ugly and nobody besides myself even knows/understands (could be fixed but better to remove)
- Ubuntu / Appliance 20.04 changes which will require extra effort for previous item just to keep it working


Reasons to maybe keep:
- Simple to use if you have no idea about command line
- Probably some users exists using it which would be unhappy with us removing the 'convenience 2 click rebuild'
- unknown number of partners / customers 'maybe'


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