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0000119Openbravo ERPB. User interfacepublic2008-04-25 11:442013-08-02 03:11
Reporterplujan 
Assigned Todbaz 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformOS5OS Version
Product Version2.40 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
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Summary0000119: [KS] Keyboard shortcuts should have an option to keep disabled
DescriptionIf I am a "old school" user that would not use keyboard shortcuts, probably the key combinations will be an obstacle to my daily use, so I would prefer to keep shortcuts disabled.
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related to feature request 0003201 closed rmorley Enable configuration of short-keys 
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2008-04-25 11:44plujanNew Issue
2008-04-25 11:44plujanStatusnew => @50@
2008-04-25 11:44plujanAssigned To => cromero
2008-05-07 17:02pjuvaraNote Added: 0000063
2008-05-07 17:02pjuvaraStatus@50@ => feedback
2008-05-07 17:12pjuvaraTag Attached: KeyboardOperations
2008-05-07 17:12pjuvaraAssigned Tocromero => pjuvara
2008-05-14 16:30plujanNote Added: 0000188
2008-05-14 20:11pjuvaraStatusfeedback => new
2008-05-14 20:11pjuvaraStatusnew => acknowledged
2008-05-30 20:05pjuvaraTag Detached: KeyboardOperations
2008-05-30 20:05pjuvaraTag Attached: ReleaseCandidate
2008-06-24 12:50pjuvaraRelationship addedrelated to 0003201
2008-12-10 10:53pjuvaraAssigned Topjuvara => rgoris
2008-12-10 14:25rgorisRelationship addedblocks 0006446
2009-04-08 11:10walleNote Added: 0015269
2009-04-08 16:17plujanNote Added: 0015288
2009-04-08 17:01walleNote Added: 0015291
2009-04-08 17:13rgorisNote Added: 0015292
2011-05-18 15:32rgorisAssigned Torgoris => dbaz
2011-05-18 15:33rgorisNote Added: 0037150
2013-08-02 03:11dbazTriggers an Emergency Pack => No
2013-08-02 03:11dbazSummaryKeyboard shortcuts should have an option to keep disabled => [KS] Keyboard shortcuts should have an option to keep disabled

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(0000063)
pjuvara   
2008-05-07 17:02   
Can you please explain why?
(0000188)
plujan   
2008-05-14 16:30   
As an "old school" user, I use OpenbravoERP as a native web app. Keyboard shortcuts to actions, buttons and field positioning are not part of my mental model ( http://www.usabilityfirst.com/glossary/term_1155.txl [^] ) of a web app. For me, OpenbravoERP do not (and should not) looks like as a desktop app. I like to use shortcuts for my browser, and even more, I have my Firefox customized with my own shortcuts (you can take a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=shortcuts&cat=all [^] to realize the kind of things that can be added).
So, for me, I would not like OpenbravoERP's keyboard shortcuts interfere with my own shortcuts and I would see this new feature (that I have no doubt it is a cool one) as an obstacle.
(0015269)
walle   
2009-04-08 11:10   
Hi...
I can understand your opinion for using shortcuts in firefox, but i think we speak here about "using a erp system" not "using firefox".
Further i do not think you are a "old school" user, especially not in the erp world, otherwise you know that old erp systems are only driven by keyboard shortcuts and I've meet by my own people, they was able to input much more faster his commands on the keyboard, as the screen can follow... can you imagine wath will happen, or efectively wath is happened, when we are coming with a new gui, and give them a mouse... this people are going creazy without keyboard features.
BR, Walter
(0015288)
plujan   
2009-04-08 16:17   
Hi Wall-e,

A couple of misunderstandings here, let me explain a little more.

We do not speak about "using an ERP", we speak about "using a fully web ERP". So yes, that includes "using firefox", since you cannot separate one from the other. I have my Openbravo tab in the same browser I use to read wiki, news, gmail, see youtube videos or whatever.
And, you are right, by "old school" I did not mean a text-based ERP user. I consider myself an "old school" user within Openbravo ERP life cycle, since I joined the company more than 2 years ago and I have clicked around thousands of hours since then.
Just as an extra note, let me explain why I raised this feature request. As you may know, depending your browser's language, you may have different key for some shortcuts such as File > Save (Ctrl+S in English, Ctrl+G in Spanish) and Edit > Select All (Ctrl+A in English, Ctrl+E in Spanish). So, if you use these shortcuts, you may encounter issues regarding Openbravo's Keyboard Shortcuts. So, it will be nice to decide whether I prefer the "Switch to Grid" Openbravo's shortcut for Ctrl+G or the Spanish Firefox's "Save as".
As I see it, the feature can save lots of time once you get used to it, but shortcuts are a power user feature that can interfere with point and click users.

Cheers, PL.
(0015291)
walle   
2009-04-08 17:01   
Hi plujan
You're right from this point of view...
Maybe in the future it is necessary to make possible to define the shortcuts on user or role level, at least at org level...
maybe there are available standard templates, which can be changed and so are changed the shortcuts, maybe this templates changes automatically if the language of the user, role, org changes will be changed....
But I'm not sure if every time is possible to separate firefox and OB shurtcuts and in this case the OB shurtcuts must be favorized...
and im not sure if this for the moment is soo important to discuss about to much ;o)
ok, thank you for your feedback,
BR, Walter
(0015292)
rgoris   
2009-04-08 17:13   
Guys, thanks the interesting thread. I agree that you should be able to switch keyboard shortcuts off.

For next time: can you please move these kinds of discussion to the UX Lab forum, for example here: http://forge.openbravo.com/plugins/espforum/view.php?group_id=100&forumid=886353&topicid=5714681 [^] so the whole community can participate (or lurk). Thanks, Rob.
(0037150)
rgoris   
2011-05-18 15:33   
Assigned to David Baz as he is in charge of the keyboard shortcuts for Openbravo 3. It might be an idea to have a an on-and-off "switch" in the same window where you define them.